Ox, what are you talking about? You know that's a screenshot of us two playing after we installed the manlove mod.

Haha...why am I not surprised?

I'll agree that the controls felt a little different, but not necessarily worse imho. It's just different.

Most of your other remarks are harsh tho. The tank has an insane armreach in the original L4D as well (I always misjudge it, especially on expert), bots aren't more retarded than in the original and the music thing is just your twisted sense of immersion. I love the music and what they did with it in L4D2, personally.

Agree that the charger's picking up of speed can be a bit ridiculous, but his attack really adds to the repertoire of the SI so I don't mind. Like the spitter, he excels at breaking up cohesive (ie good) teams, which were sometimes hard to break in the original, if not impossible.

The 'uncommon commons' in riot gear can't be damage from the front. They're just invulnerable, so you can unload 15456 clips into them and they'll still get up. You gotta shoot them in the back or side.

And yeah, the pistol when you're down is lame when you're only carrying a melee weapon. Don't know how they'll make that less bizarro tho.

All in all, you make a few good points, but I think most of what you said isn't necessarily worse, just different from L4D. And I'm sure Valve will still fix a few things before November 16th - this is a demo, after all. There are a few console-ish traits that need fixing like the weapons taking up 40% of the screen, for example.

Read this in a RPS comment thread (re realism mode for L4D2) and found it pretty funny

[quote]L4D2’s realism mode is going to become an awful cesspit of people trying to be as tactical as possible. I fully expect the increased friendly fire damage to result in people calling out almost everytime they are even moving to avoid accidentally eating some bullets from someone, and stripping everything down into simple barked commands like we are Delta Force or some other nonsense.

Voice chat is so you can scream “OH GOD IT’S GOT ME IT’S GOT ME HELP HELP IT’S GOT MEâ€

I think Derf is smoking his magical rock again. Too many weapons. Jeez man. That's like complaining that the voice acting is too good in an RPG or something.

Wtf bitch, I've been preloading for 2 hours and am at 96% right now. You came online 15 minutes ago and at 26%?!


I hate you. I hate you so much. I wish I could hate you death.

hehe...dude, I live in America. Our broadband sucks, our wireless sucks.... if I'm lucky and have a badass net connection, I've gotta flaunt it at every possibility.

nah, i don't got it.

I don't think i will right away. *SHOCK BLASPHEMY!!!*

Hehe, oh and satis and shiny, if its your first time get some kind of padding for your asses cos you're going to be landing on them alot.