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Rinox
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Smoking banned in US town
Except for in seperate houses.
[quote]Belmont to be first U.S. city to ban all smoking
By Dana Yates, Daily Journal Staff
Belmont is set to make history by becoming the first city in the nation to ban smoking on its streets and almost everywhere else.
The Belmont City Council voted unanimously last night to pursue a strict law that will prohibit smoking anywhere in the city except for single-family detached residences. Smoking on the street, in a park and even in one’s car will become illegal and police would have the option of handing out tickets if they catch someone.
The actual language of the law still needs to be drafted and will likely come back to the council either in December or early next year.
“We have a tremendous opportunity here. We need to pass as stringent a law as we can, I would like to make it illegal,â€
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:54 am |
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derf
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Ah the old liberlism Vs responsibility discussion. I'm somewhere in the middle, but with cigarettes, probably more toward reponsibility because of the tobacco companies forces of influnce.
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:46 am |
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Rinox
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I'm a little indifferent in this matter. As a non-smoker, I couldn't really care less if they ban cigs or not.
But I'd still say that a strict policy to avoid second-hand smoking as much as possible is still much preferrable over banning it alltogether. Cos really, not being allowed to smoke on the street? Wtf? Are they gonna ban cars too cos their exhaust gasses are bad for my health? It doesn't make sense...
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:57 am |
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Satis
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well, according to that article, you can't even smoke in your own car. Last I checked, your car was your personal property. How can they dictate what you can and can't do in your personal property? Anyway, I think it should be nabbed as unconstitutional... which should hopefully open the floodgates on anti-retarded laws like that.
I mean, if smoking was illegal, ok. But it's not. So quit discriminating against smokers.
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:02 pm |
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Rinox
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Why do you care, out of principle? Just wondering, now you've joined the ranks of the non-smokers. Have a tofu and some purified water.
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Satis
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derf
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Rinox
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:57 am |
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Satis
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I understand your point, but I'm not convinced that people smoking near you out in open air will increase your chance of getting lung cancer. How about we ban SUVs and diesel trucks first? I bet that would have a much more measurable effect on society's overall health. How about we can internal combustion engines entirely and force everyone to use hydrogen, electric or steam? hehe...steam.
Err... anyway, I think it's just an example of more people riding the "it's cool to fuck with smokers" train. These are the same people that rode the "black people are inferior" and "communists will ruin your life" trains in the past.
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Rinox
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RB
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I'm relatively super sensitive to all sorts of smoke, which passes not without affecting my psychophysical abilities and -I'm sure- health, as I am breathing it. In principle, smell of nicotine, caffeine and similar materies cause me an instant headache that may take the whole day if I do not get rid of the source in matter of seconds.
I curse and swear when I walk behind a smoker, I make acid comments and potentially kick ass of a smoker who sat near me in the classroom, I openly declare myself, in word and deed, as an anti-smoker, which brought quite much hatred upon myself.
Frankly, not all people are so lucky to be such sensitive. Yet, that is not telling that people who do not care whether they are breathing smoke or not do not take damage from it.
In overall, smoking isn't good for health of those who smoke and those who breath that what they smoke, so closing them up while they smoke is doing just fine for me.
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Rinox
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No we don't, I argue because I'm right!!!
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Rinox
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