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ElevenBravo
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Bin Laden Offers Truce
_________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:00 pm |
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Myrddin L'argenton
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Re: Bin Laden Offers Truce
_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:10 pm |
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Arathorn
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Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:23 am Posts: 3956 Location: Amsterdam
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_________________ Melchett: As private parts to the gods are we: they play with us for their sport!
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:20 pm |
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Myrddin L'argenton
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_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:33 pm |
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derf
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Suppose this is real, and al-Qaida are real terrorists:
"long-term" doesnt mean permanent. It sounds like they just want to buy time to organise another huge attack.
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Suppose this is real, and al-Qaida are not terrorists:
Why do they not say something like: "we didnt bomb the twin towers, your Bush is a liar, we are innocent". That would be the truth, no?
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Suppose this is not real. And the fraudsters just want another excuse to keep fighting the war.
Why does is not say: "We will crush you puny americans. Your bases are belong to us."
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Suppose this is not real. And the fraudsters just want to stop the war.
Why not say: "Okay, we admit it. This is doing both of us no good. Do you want peace for now?"
Oh wait! It actually is #4! Maybe 11b is right then.
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:38 pm |
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Arathorn
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I'ld go for option 1.
_________________ Melchett: As private parts to the gods are we: they play with us for their sport!
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:05 pm |
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derf
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_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:47 pm |
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Myrddin L'argenton
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_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:35 pm |
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Satis
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_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:11 am |
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ElevenBravo
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I heard on the news this morning a story about the Bin Laden tape. They where interviewing a expert forensic voice identification guy. He said that the CIA determined the voice to be Bin Laden after only 4 hours. In the forensics's world 4 hours is a world record. He also said that they did not disclose how they determined it was Bin Laden, what technique they used, and what parts of Bin Ladens speech match with of recordings of confirmed Bin Laden tapes. Another words, we just have to take the CIA's word for it that its really Bin Laden. Now, I dont know about you but what happen the last time we took the CIA's word that something was true based on weak evidence? How about WMD's?
I am only questioning and speculating.
It seems the CIA sure was in a hurry to confirm the voice was Bin Laden. Wouldnt you think they might spend a little more time on something this serious to determine if its the world most notorious terrorist? Its almost as if they wanted it to be really be Bin Laden.
Now I know what your thinking "11b your being an idiot why would they want it to be really Bin Laden". Think about it for a moment. Alot of people think Bin Laden is dead. We havent heard from him in over a year. Americans are starting to want to pull out of Iraq but the administration keeps hammering that we need to stay in. Then a tape shows up that may or may not be Bin Laden.
Now, what would happened if the CIA said "this isnt Bin Laden". Well then everyone thats been yelling to end the war now has more leverage because it further concludes that Bin Laden is probably dead.
but!
What happens if the CIA says it is Bin Laden. Well then, the administration now has more ammo to use for its reasons to continue the war "on terror"(which is basicly a ghost hunt by thats for another topic). They can now say "Look, Bin Laden is still alive, there is a still a mission to do!"
Then the propaganda machine starts turning out more propaganda like this
"Bin Laden is still alive and says hes going to attack American so we must continue the war effort. He said that our security measure arnt stopping him so will need to make them tougher. We need a stronger patriot act to make sure Bin Laden's plans dont take hold",etc,etc
The CIA is doing exactly what it did before the war. They are withholding information. They withheld alot of their information for reason to invade Iraq especially the WMD's. Now with the Bin Laden tape they are doing the same song and dance. Withholding information and wanting the world populace to take their word for it.
Think about it.
Last edited by ElevenBravo on Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Myrddin L'argenton
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You know what- despite the paranoia I would agree with you 11b
_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:35 am |
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Arathorn
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I thought so too, but I now think it's just a .
_________________ Melchett: As private parts to the gods are we: they play with us for their sport!
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Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:32 am |
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Myrddin L'argenton
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hehe- Bin Laden shares his view? Not really...
_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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ElevenBravo
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_________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
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Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:49 am |
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pevil
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