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So why not just open the borders? Just let everyone who wants in to come, come in? If its not such a bad thing to have illegal immigrant just shut down border guards and open the gates? Why not?

If someone started living in your backyard, set up a tent and started living there would you still "admire them for their courage?" What if they did take your job and left you jobless, would you still think they are couragouse?

So if you see a group of ilegals standing on the corner how do you know they arnt all escape convicts from their country? You dont, you dont know and neither do the police. So just let them go about their business?

What if illegal immigrants where your #1 crime risk in your city. Are they still couragouse?

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oh, no, I'm not advocating we pay for these foreign exchange students, by any means. Either they pay for themselves, their family pays, or their government pays. I'm more thinking along the lines that the government chooses the top 5% of their high school graduates, for instance, and then pays for them to go to the US/EU for advanced training. It'd be in that government's best interests, since the resultant influx of skilled workers would be a major boon to their country.

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Humm, ok so, their governement pays for them or they pay for theirselves? And they get this education visa before they enter the county?

I like the idea better when it was called "Foreign Exchange Student Program"

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yea, that's basically what I'm advocating. Foreign exchange student.

What I'm thinking.

1. Foreign government chooses top 5% of students as they graduate from high school.

2. School visas are obtained.

3. The foreign student, foreign government, or some other foreign object pays costs (tuition, flight, living expenses, etc).

while getting educated:
student gets education
foreign country loses cash
US gets influx of cash

after being educated:
student returns to country and gets experience
foreign country gets educated/skilled workers/teachers
US gets nothing

10 years later
student gets a visa (he pays for it) to work in the US, increasing his income significantly
foreign country loses a skilled worker but has 10 years of profits from him
US gains a skilled, experienced worker

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This is too much to think about for a drunk man, I'll report more when I'm sober.

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nah, I'm with Ox...I never scored really high in high school (am now in college, though), mainly due to a lack of motivation. Whatever, it doesn't matter.

As for the degree thing, the Visa they'd get would be for education only, and only last for education. Once they get their degree, out of the country. Now, they could potentially get picked up by another country (say somewhere in Europe), but there's nothing you can do about that.

And yes, higher education, not high school. :p

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To change the subject but still within ethics and morality.

For those of you who believe abortion still should be a womens right and is ok.




http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html
http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures_2.html

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