And maybe they could implant the chips from the cards in our arms or our heads.... 666 THE MARK OF THE BEAST! AAAAAAAAAAA

Serious, as time goes on and technology gets better its going to come to smart cards.



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11b, wtf are you linking us to? To quote:

"The Antichrist will do all of this for 42 months... it is coming!, warns us the Bible... but Christ is more powerful than 1,000 Anti-Christs!... "

Yay, go religion. Show me a religious zealot than can understands fuckin' grammar and I'll show you an anomaly. I swear, the Christian religion has brought the human race nothing but morons for 2000 years.

err....anyway....fuck being tracked. Anyone remember the Clipper chip? How about Echelon? Hell goddamned no. They'll put a microchip in me when I'm laying on a morgue table.

Dude, go see Enemy of the State, and you see what they are talking about.

It concerns me that you don't have a problem with the lack of privacy. Think of all the little shit you have done in your life that you are not supposed to do by the law. You are not allowed to drink here until 21, in Texas you are not alllowed to have sex until 17 legally, not allowed to have oral lovins, etc.

Besides, if you really think this is a good idea go read such books as brave new world, 1984, THX1138, This perfect day, Logan's run. Watch Equilibrium. This is a bad idea, if people of our past were smart enough to realize this is bad, surely with all of the issues we already have expressing our freedoms, you would be intelligent enough to see this.

You can look back onto history and see the naturalists and their perfect society which crashed.

Plus there are always going to be people like me who lead people to their opinions by conscious thought or not, and the people who only wish to follow people like me. And people like me like power. Power is a dangerous drug, which if not checked would ruin all of your lives.

True, you could maintain that the idea An Sich is good, but what I (and other ppl in this thread) am basically saying is that when its execution depends on the ppl involved it's bound to end in trouble.

Depending on human nature in terms of being extremely "good" (as well as extremely "bad", but not to the same extent) is the biggest mistake one could make. Just look at your personal life: there's bound to be ppl in your direct family/friends' circle that have changed substantially because they have been put in a certain situation. And I mean even small changes; someone who became arrogant because they got praise from this or that person, or that landed in a certain social group and started acting totally different in order to adapt themselves there. These are very ordinary examples, bordering to banality and are not very much dramatic. But they are the small-time reflection of what happens to ppl put in extraordinary positions. I'm sure you've heard about the ; this is an excellent example of what we're on about. Make sure to read it and/or look up more about it, it's very interesting, and nowadays you'd have major trouble passing this kinda experiment by an ethics commision lol.


Bottom line: never, not even in the slightest, depend on "general" Humanity's kindness in extreme situations. Communism, at it's base, depends on the "good" in Humanity as well; and it's a good system, theoretically speaking. But in practice it turns into a nightmare in no time. With the State in control of everything, and the State-controlling organ consisting of humans. Humanity is built and lives on a quid-pro-quo basis, utilitarian rather than anything else. This is no reason to feel bad about the world, in fact it makes things very dramatically funny, in a way. If you're lucky enough to be on a side that has the time and opportunity to laugh.


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not read most of this but i've read some of the topic and i agree with the whole 'no privacy' thing. if we were to have smart cards as id things, about the only good thing would be the chance to have stuff like CV's on there, so at an interview your potential new employer could stick it in their comp and view your old jobs/references straight away. but of course the problem with that is somehow the info would have to get on there, and like Satis said, someone somewhere is going to be able to hack/fake that kind of stuff.