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Mole
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 5:58 am |
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derf
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:02 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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blah blah blah, thanks for not passing judgement. So... how is smoking life threatening if I'm smoking in open air? IE, not in a restaurant? Well, in some places THAT is illegal.
And are you saying it's the government's right to tell a business that noone is allowed to smoke in it? A much more democratic/business approach would be to not legislate it... places that allow smoking would have some clientele, while places that personally don't allow smoking will have others. Let the populace decide where it wants to eat or whatever. Don't like smoking? Fine, don't go to a smoking restaurant. And I'll go to the no-kids restaurant.
And, lastly, your car is alot more life threatening than my cigarette. The amount of crap it spews into the atmosphere is considerably greater than what I generate with a cigarette (or a pack of cigarettes). I guarantee the smog that many of us are forced to dwell in far outweighs the health-risks of some second-hand smoke.
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:03 am |
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derf
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Woah Sat! Youre feeling way too victimised. I think its time for a ciggie.
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:36 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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eh? What's a ciggie?
Victimized? Not especially. I can go without a cigarette for long enough to eat or whatever. Not a big deal. I just think it's hypocritical, which annoys me.
Everyone seems to focused on the rights of the nonsmokers. What about the rights of smokers? Just like everyone's concerned about the black minority, but could give less of a shit about the white (minority, in Texas) or the hispanic (majority, in Texas). I could go on for awhile, but I'll reign myself in. For the 'land of the free, home of the brave', we sure have alot of freedom-stealing laws.
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:57 am |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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A ciggie is a cigarette.
There are lots of things i think should be banned/imposed but most of which i know the world isnt ready for yet.
I give cigarettes another 100 years max.
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:01 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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well, that's fine. I personally think they should start legalized stuff. It causes less problems when it's regulated. If the government legalized marijuana, would there be any more marijuana cartels? Not likely. Plus the government could collect huge amount of tax, mass produce it (giving struggling farmers something new to grow), and probably sell it for cheaper than it is now. Totally put that portion of the drug business out of business.
I'm not so keen on legalizing the harder drugs. There are too many people that can't handle themselves... though it would help eliminate crime (to a certain degree, at least), the societal impact may be too great.
Anyway, I'm for less law, not more.
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:18 pm |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:51 pm |
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Inquisitor
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:48 pm Posts: 892 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Wooo! Calm down mate!
Smoking is very bad for you, just as sticking your mouth over a car exhaust pipe is. I have no problem with smokers smoking outside, but quite frankly - I'm never entering a restaurant with smoking allowed - those places REEK.
Besides - I have asthma - and if I smoked - I'd be in coughing fits constantly - hence my stark disapproval of smoking, as it too causes coughing, and I'm mystified as to why people would willingly force this on themselves.
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:23 pm |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Who calm down?
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:36 pm |
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Inquisitor
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:48 pm Posts: 892 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Satsi.
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Franny
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Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:08 am Posts: 940 Location: over there
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Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life. - Satis Clankiller
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Rinox
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:31 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:58 pm |
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Mole
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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