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| Author: | derf [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:27 am ] |
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Basically the silver-haired old white men of America have decided to boost intergration with Iraqi police and Iraqi armed forces so that one day the US can say "yes, they can do it on their own" and pull out. Without a doubt there will be some form of US presence within Iraq for the next 50 years, (they have bases everywhere in the world) but who wants to bet that as soon as they pull out, everything goes tits up? |
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| Author: | Arathorn [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:33 am ] |
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Bush wants to let his (democrat) successor decide to pull out of Iraq. I'm afraid Iraq is a lost case. |
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| Author: | Satis [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:59 am ] |
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well...all I know is that the official recommendation from the Iraq committee was to slowly pull out and reduce forces. However, Bush is sending in 20,000 more troops. Yay. I'm just happy to be out and untouchable. What I want will obviously never happen, so I'll just be happy with that. |
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| Author: | Rinox [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:41 am ] |
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| Author: | derf [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:08 am ] |
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I know lots of americans have this mentality where they unquestionably support their soldiers. I find this a bit FUBAR because suppose i do not support the cause, they expect me to support the soldiers. The cause is the #1 factor for me. If i dont support the war, i will not support the soldiers because they are supporting something i do not agree with. Then they give me all this shit about the fact that soldiers protect your freedom and give you the right to voice your opinion. That's bullshit because we all know american policy only protects the interests of americans. Look at the atrocities of the cold war for evidence. Thousands died at the hands of US foreign policy. So the people that really believe in the idea to unconditionally support troops, are right wing morons who know nothing about the world outside the US. |
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| Author: | Rinox [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:33 am ] |
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I don't entirely disagree with your analysis (heh), but don't forget that the army is huge in the US, not like in the UK or Belgium. So pretty much everybody there that isn't filthy rich knows someone that is in the army or has friends with lovers/children/brothers/sisters in the army. That tends to make someone support "the troops" even if they disagree with the cause. But yeah, if you're not personally involved like you or me, the cause is indeed all that really matters. |
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| Author: | derf [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:01 pm ] |
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I ran a little stat-check... Sources: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6254253.stm?ls https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fa ... nt/uk.html https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fa ... nt/us.html 1 in 200 US citizens is in the armed forces. 1 in 300 UK citizens is in the armed forces. I guess you're right on that matter. |
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| Author: | Satis [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:00 pm ] |
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| Author: | derf [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:15 pm ] |
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| Author: | Satis [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:53 pm ] |
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| Author: | derf [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:30 pm ] |
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| Author: | Satis [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:12 pm ] |
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but don't blame the soldiers for governmental policy. Blame the government or the voters. A soldier has absolutely no freedom to influence government policy. You as a civilian have significantly more. Hell, I didn't even get to vote when I was in the military. |
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| Author: | derf [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:15 pm ] |
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I blame the soldiers for implementing it, and having put themselves in the position to implement it. |
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| Author: | Satis [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:49 pm ] |
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| Author: | derf [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:59 pm ] |
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