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Arathorn
Minor Diety
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:23 am Posts: 3956 Location: Amsterdam
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Off course, but Satis is still right. It's more a matter of principle.
_________________ Melchett: As private parts to the gods are we: they play with us for their sport!
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:49 pm |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Its a matter of principle? What the fuck does that mean?
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:51 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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If you let them force one person to do something they don't want, you open the floodgates. That's the principle. If you take away one person's freedom, one time, in one way, that's it, you've compromised your integrity.
_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:05 pm |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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You lose your integrity towards freedom, but gain in humanity. The gain in humanitarian integrity is greater than the loss in freedom.
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:10 pm |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:54 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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integrity isn't something that's measurable in degrees. Either you have it or you don't. And once you've lost it, you can't get it back.
Anyway, semantics aside, I don't believe anyone should have any right ot have anyone do anything they don't want to do, period. Regardless of the social benefits, I don't believe the govt (or anyone else) should have the right to take away your freedoms without due process of law.
_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:25 pm |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Many other people seem to think likewise in context, but not in concept. In this case, my conceptual opinion follows through on the contextual.
I understand!
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:32 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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haha, ok. I'm not sure what exactly you're understanding, but we'll all just smile.
:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:
_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:48 pm |
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Myrddin L'argenton
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Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:17 am Posts: 1717 Location: The Plateaus of Insanity
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_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:15 am |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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I dont know. But it doesnt really matter. It was the principle which i was investigating.
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:28 am |
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Myrddin L'argenton
King
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:17 am Posts: 1717 Location: The Plateaus of Insanity
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_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:44 pm |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:09 pm |
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Myrddin L'argenton
King
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:17 am Posts: 1717 Location: The Plateaus of Insanity
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_________________ I think drugs have done some really good things. If you don't believe me, go home tonight, take all your cassettes, CDs, etc and burn them. Because those artists that have made that music were real fucking high- Bill Hicks
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:24 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:51 am |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:46 am |
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