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tyranus
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Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:42 am Posts: 2005 Location: Under my wife AND son's thumbs.. in essex! chavs! everywhere!!
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_________________ Sleep deprivation for teh lose
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ElevenBravo
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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_________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Mole
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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_________________ Games to complete: GTA IV [100%] (For Multiplayer next!) Fallout 3 [50%] Rock Band [35%] http://www.cafepress.com/SmeepProducts
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:43 am |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:46 am |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:51 am |
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ElevenBravo
King
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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_________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:17 am |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Mole
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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_________________ Games to complete: GTA IV [100%] (For Multiplayer next!) Fallout 3 [50%] Rock Band [35%] http://www.cafepress.com/SmeepProducts
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:19 am |
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ElevenBravo
King
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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_________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:46 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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well, anyway, to each their own. I disagree that this pyramid of personal happiness is the way things are. There are plenty of instances where those importances flip-flop positions. There are also different ways of saying it, and different orders it could be put in.
If body was really the basis for humanity, how come you have people going hungry to feed their families? In that case, belongingness and love is the bottom tier. Still, some people eschew worldy comforts in exchance for otherwordly trancendence (ghandi?)...so, trancendence is the bottom of the pyramid.
It's certainly a nice idea, and might be a relatively accurate estimation of humanity, but it's no more fact or truth than anything else in psychology. And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:12 am |
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ElevenBravo
King
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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mothers and father who go hungry to feed their family are not in the bottom tier. Since they love their children so much, they are in the upper tier and forgo their lower needs to meet the lower needs of their children who havent reach that same tier yet. Ghandi is the same way. Once you reach a trancendence you are in control of your body's needs. For ghandi, scratch ghandi he was an overrated asshole anyway. How about the dali lama. The dali lama can forgo worldy comforts because hes at the top of the pyrimd. Fasting for example. fasting from food is something religous people do to get closer in touch with God.Tthey can surpress their bodly need for hunger. If you can control your own hunger then you are in charge of your body, not your body in charge of you. But you would only be able to do that if you where high on the pyramid. If trandencence was truely on the bottom then everyone would be skinny and healthly because they would be in control of their eating. And thats not the case. More people are overweight if anything.
For example, Catholics during lent abstain from eating meat on Fridays during lent. Fish is ok but not red meat. And your supposed to fast on those days. You might not think it but going a day without eating red meat or chicken is harder than you think( unless your a vegitarian.) It all part of trying to get closer in touch with God. Also during lent you supposed to give up something you love like, beer, or smoking or choclate. Again, all part of trying to take control of your lower needs to enhance you higher needs.
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:48 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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but you're missing the point of a pyramid. You're supposed to have filled the bottom portions of hte pyramid before you can reach the upper ones. That's the point of the pyramid, that the bottom stuff must be filled before upper things can be reached. But we could argue about the point of pyramids and all-seeing eyes until we're blue in the face. Instead;
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