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ClanKiller.com Tweaks, Games and General Disorder 2008-10-19T01:47:14-06:00 https://forums.clankiller.com/feed.php?f=24&t=2940 2008-10-19T01:47:14-06:00 2008-10-19T01:47:14-06:00 https://forums.clankiller.com/viewtopic.php?t=2940&p=51058#p51058 <![CDATA[Linus Torvalds fucks with C++]]>

Those and many other C and C++ related issues should be fixed in . Still for me it is a question if and when it will appear.

Statistics: Posted by RB — Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:47 am

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Statistics: Posted by Satis — Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:17 am

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Now watch out: the difference between C and C++ is that C++ supports virtually every single line of code written in C* while vice versa doesn't work. This implies that you can work with C++ all the time and use either C or C++ specific design to get out the maximum. That's what I do, and that is not only one advantage of C++.

The only parameter on which C++ is supposed to be always slower or equal to C is compile time. But that's not what end-user sees.

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* - There are few details that won't work, for they were very evil and actually useful only for obfuscated code writing.

Statistics: Posted by RB — Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:16 pm

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And to say that using object oriented programming is bad is missing the point entirely.

On the other hand, if you're talking about code that executes fast, I can see the point of using a non-abstracted language. the closer you get to the hardware, the faster the code (usually), so, fine, if you want something uber-fast, go with c. If you want it to be really fast, write it in freakin' assembler. But maintaining assembler isn't exactly easy. Maintaining C isn't easy. Maintaining a well-built C++ (or any object oriented language) is always easier, assuming the skillsets of the developers involved are comparable. Hell, I use OO on practically everything I write now (even javascript, though I don't use OO exclusively) just because it makes maintenance so much easier.

Anyway....yea... I think Linus needs to chill. His hatred of c++ and object oriented languages is unfounded. Every language has its place, and a good developer can make programs in any language good.

Statistics: Posted by Satis — Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:29 pm

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An article too:
http://advice.cio.com/esther_schindler/ ... hy_c_sucks

Well, everybody's got an opinion. It's just like having an ass, like the inspector Callahan prefers to call it. This ass is still rather too fat to be ignored. I will post more thoughts on my place. Here I just wanted to let you know of this,

plus

to tell the short version: I can't say I disagree with LT about the source of the trouble. Here you will find at least one my ramble on the very same thing. But further LT's *interpretation* of these facts is certainly colored by sort of problems on his behalf. It seemingly enters the pathological zone.

Statistics: Posted by RB — Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:15 pm

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