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As for the discussion, I guess we can all agree that people who are unemployed for a living suck, otherwise it's all good?
Statistics: Posted by Rinox — Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:37 pm
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Monday I got to stay home from work because of ice - Texans just can't drive on the stuff and today Wednesday - we had more snowish Ice and I stayed home again! yay so far a 3 day work week - maybe less with pay!!!
Statistics: Posted by Shiny — Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:25 pm
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Statistics: Posted by Satis — Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:21 am
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My family thought I was dumb because of a stupid flawed IQ test the school forced on me when I was a child (I was failing 1st grade). So from then on they did not push school on me - and my family was pretty much out of the picture while I was in hich school - but I would say I did well for myself considering. (and for the record I failed 1st grade and did summer school - not because I was dumb - I needed glasses - would have been nice for someone to test that huh?)
It is one thing if your life explodes on you and you take a couple months and get it straight again - like getting laid off and need some help - but it is another to always be on the governments paycheck for sitting on your ass.
Statistics: Posted by Shiny — Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:19 am
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But I just think that the motivation is something that is, in part, something you get from background. To take the ghetto example again; if you grow up in an environment of 90% unemployment, you don't have a lot of things/persons to look up to. If your parents don't stimulate you to work hard for school (cos when you're young you don't understand the importance of school for the rest of your life yet) it's not that straightforward to make an effort for it. And there's always peer pressure of all sorts.
It's definitely possible and I'm all for it, I just think it's a rare person who can rise above his background and go to the top.
Statistics: Posted by Rinox — Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:12 pm
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even if you lived in the ghetto in New Orleans you could get out if you were motivated. Buy a $500 car and drive to another state. Or join the military. Certain military jobs will get you a signing bonus ($10,000 or ever more) plus money for college (up to $50,000 I believe). You could get your degree while serving your time, get out, and easily get a job... with military experience and a degree, getting a decent job wouldn't be hard.
Anyway...about the only way you're totally screwed is if you're physically or mentally broken, at which point the government does still dole out quite a nice chunk of cash. And you've got to be pretty far gone to not be able to get any job at all.
Statistics: Posted by Satis — Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:00 pm
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Anyway, I think we had this discussion before.
Personal ambition and drive certainly has a lot to do with it, but I also believe that the environment you were born in does a LOT for your destiny.I don't think I'd have two degrees if I was born in a poor family.
Statistics: Posted by Rinox — Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:47 pm
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