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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

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Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:32 am
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Would you mind summing it up? That plot outline is burning my brain considering im trying to get a 2500 word paper in for Wednesday.

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Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:06 am
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You never read it?

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Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:27 am
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ultra summary that will fail any test given on the subject:

The "future" (book was written in the 40s, I think, so 1984 was the far future)
world controlled by 3 warring super powers
no personal freedom
"big brother" is always watching... the thought police will get you for inappropriate thoughts
etc etc...

Classic dystopian literature, and one of the best known besides Brave New World. And seems to be the direction that the civilized world is heading in, with England boldly leading the way to a total surveillance state.

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haha...found this on slashdot.

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/01/14/2125202.shtml

It makes reference to England and Big Brother. What a coincidence. :)

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:D I accept the blame. Although, i don't think the UK will ever take is so far as actually abusing it. We have parliament! :lol:

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[Godwin]So had the 1920's Weimar Republic.[/Godwin]

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Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:43 am
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of course no "government" would ever take things to far! nope not at all. I'll keep microwaving the rfid's and really considering keeping my money and mail in a safe in my back yard under a trap door with my nuc. rations.

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Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:32 am
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Look at this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6267305.stm

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Returning to an old discussion perhaps but...the difference between Derf being under the thumb of Blair and the soldiers in Iraq is, obviously, that Blair can become the PM regardless of Derf voting for him or not. The soldiers on the other hand signed for the army; if they wouldn't have signed they wouldn't be in Iraq. :)

Not that it really matters anyway, a lot (most?) of the soldiers in Iraq are from poor backgrounds and are trying to get a better life by serving in the military and all the perks that come with it. So I wouldn't go as far as Derf and blame them for signing. But the guys who had a real choice NOT to sign or the idealists, why would anyone be sorry for them? In the former's case they're doing their 'job' and in the latter they totally asked for it. :wink:


Anyway, I hope for everyone that's not a major asshole that he gets out of the Iraq hell alive, American or Iraqi.

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