won't be around for a bit, due to christmas with the in laws, so have a great christmas everyone and i'll see ya later.

mines a beer by the way..

Anyone care to explain what he meant what that last sentence?

And Merry Christmas to everybody as well, tons of presents, food and drinks .. i just love these holidays.

I hate christmas because it always ends up with me broke.

But Merry whatever to everyone anyway.

Merry Christmas to all!

Merry retailermas. Merry commercializedmas.

btw....there's no reason to believe Christ (Assuming his existence) was actually born December 25th. There's as much argument for other dates. In fact, the bible refers to shephers out in the field, tending their flocks (in the middle of winter?) and farmers out in their fields (when nothing's growing). So, chances are, Christ was not born in December at all.

So....why December 25th? Well, as luck would have it, a large pagan holiday happens to fall in that area, specifically Saturnalia. It's basically a winter solstice celebration. This celebration was quite popular with the pagans around the time Christianity began to rear it's ugly head.

So....why remove a holiday and piss off alot of people who enjoy being off of work and chilling in their cribs? Just replace it with something unPagan like, say, Christ's birthday. Thus, Christmas surplanted Saturnalia and what was a pagan winter solstice ritual became an adequately devout Christian holiday.

So....let's put the pagan winter solstice back in Christmas!

Hmmm, I don't rightly remember the exact word for word story (as I'm sure everyone except priests dont) but maybe it's on about these people tending to there crops/herd whatever, but maybe this was not the same time? maybe the star of bethlehem actually appear nine months before hand, and the all these people travelled with it for nine months and it came to rest a bethlehem.

Those wise men musta had some journey

Almost every "Christian" holiday was originally a pagan one. Early Christian rulers also built churches on places of pagan worship, with a local saint and a vague miracle to keep the backward locals happy.

Oh ehr... and happy christmas all.

Merry christmas everyone, i hope satanclause brings alot of nice presents to you like he/it did to me, a car accident

oh, blame santa claus why don't you! Jeez man. It's not Santa's fault you had an accident. It's baby jesus's fault! Blame baby jesus, that little hypocritical bastard!

Hey maybe it was santa. Could be some guy dressed up as santa got really drunk and drove into Peltz' car. You don't know that. I bet it's payback for Peltz eating Rudolph.

hehe, good thinking J. And yeah, everyone enjoy christmas holidays...I know I will. I get the chance to eat craploads of free food at friendly ppl's places..spares me at least 4 days woth of my own food if I get to indigestion-proportions of eating. I'll get ready to loosen my belt.

anybody read The Da Vinci Code? It's all about the christians ripping off the pagans... it's very cool
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Anywho, merry Christmas to everyone! I expect everyone to post back with a show and tell of their goodies

*pokes tongue out* Santa will come to me before he does to you hehehe.

That's just cos Santa has a soft spot for criminals, as has been established with Peltz' adventure. And show and tell my goodies...I just might. One thing you can be sure to expect is either socks, mittens (word?) or a shawl from my grandma. She's got over over 30 grandchildren (counting their optional spouses) and she still insists on buying each and everyone of us a present with her small pension. Love her.

Grandmas rock, too bad i aint got any anymore. I understand if Santa is upset that i ate rudolph but as i mentioned before, i was visited by satanclause. Anyway i got chocklate, a complect of showergel+shampoo with a washing spounge(sp?) in the shape of a hand grenade , coupla table games and a pair of socks oh and a tie that plays music

rofl....sounds like you got some great stuff. I got $200 in gift certificates to fry's electronics. heheh. Various other things, of course. heheh. And beer.