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ElevenBravo
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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New Worm
_________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
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Arathorn
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Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:23 am Posts: 3956 Location: Amsterdam
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Seems like it still needs some big deal of stupidity to get people infected with this virus.
But there are so many ignorant internet users that I don't doubt it'll spread like fire.
_________________ Melchett: As private parts to the gods are we: they play with us for their sport!
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:16 pm |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Sometimes i think its good that we have regular geek hackers. They keep general computer and internet security up-to-date from any serious hacking threats. Like any Al Quaeda 1337 haX0rZ.
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:37 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16661 Location: On a slope
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lol...goat herder hax0r. With a laptop and a T1 uplink from his cave in the middle of the Afghan mountains.
however, I agree. A hacker is a good thing. You don't know the strengths and weaknesses of something until you test the limits. Without the hacker mentality, our systems would not be as robust as they are. Not that windows is very robust, but bleh, that's what happens with monopolies.
_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:15 am |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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However...I cant help but feel i need to pummel the shit out of hackers.
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:21 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16661 Location: On a slope
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let's define hacker first....
there is the tv/news hacker, which is basically the black-hat bastard that likes to r00t boxes and either crash them, erase them, deface websites, or steal data.
Then there is the white hat/gray hat who likes to explore systems, hack their own or they friends boxes (but usually not an unsuspecting 3rd party) and does no damage, nor steals data (usually). These people push O/S (and other) limits without intentionally violating the law (usually).
The prior version should be beat down.
The latter version is integral to software and hardware development and should be respected. Though the gray-hats can go either way.
_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:24 am |
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ElevenBravo
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Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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Hacking is breaking and entering. You dont break into peoples homes, you dont break into peoples computers. There should be a law carries the same punshiment in hacking as breaking and entering or worse.
_________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:57 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16661 Location: On a slope
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well, that assumes the blackhat hacking. Hacking has other meanings as well, though not to the general public. In my arena, a 'hacker' is just someone that knows their shit and pushes technical limits. A cracker is someone that breaks the law and intrudes on other peoples' boxen. I am a hacker. I am not a cracker. Respect my authority or I'll erase your credit history. :p
but anyway, it's just semantics. I think we agree on the overall principle. People that 'hack' (common definition) should be punished.
_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:37 pm |
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Rinox
Minor Diety
Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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*r00ts Satis' box* But what I really meant to ask was: is 'boxen' the plural of box? Or just a fantasy based on ox? Somehow I always thought the plural was boxes. Enlighten me, ye ole native speaker.
_________________ "I find a Burger Tank in this place? I'm-a be a one-man cheeseburger apocalypse."
- Coach
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:38 am |
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derf
Minor Diety
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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Some people say that if you remove the illegality from hacking, people will stop doing it. I say bullshit.
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:10 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16661 Location: On a slope
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I agree, bullshit. People will always do it. Though the number of people doing it may be reduced. Alot of people do it for bragging rights or fame or whatever. Script kiddies. lol
Boxen == hacker speak for boxes. Box = computer, boxen = computers, boxes = stuff you keep your crap in.
_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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