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This is one of the things I dont like about Bush. He has a very weak policy on the Mexcio/US border. It is America's weakest link. Yet he always pardons thousands of illegal immagrants. Its a major security risk for us and Bush even with his big stance on national security hasnt done much to tighen the border.

Anyway, supposedly Chechen terrorist have entered the US through Mexico along Arizona mountain range. And right before the story broke there was a warning to US schools that terrorist might try and attack a school. Hopefully this wont end up like what happened in Russia.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041 ... -5028r.htm

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U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico in July.
The Chechen group is suspected of having links to Islamist terrorists seeking to separate the southern enclave of Chechnya from Russia, according to officials familiar with intelligence reports.
Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to monitor, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.
The intelligence report was supplied to the U.S. government in late August or early September and was based on information from an intelligence source that has been proved reliable in other instances, one official said.
A second U.S. official said the report is being investigated, but said it could not be determined whether the group of Chechens actually entered the country, as the intelligence source reported.
"We don't know whether or not that report is true," this official said.
A spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection confirmed that the intelligence report was provided by another government agency, but said Border Patrol agents were unable to verify its accuracy.
It could not be learned whether the reported infiltration is related to the recent Education Department warning to school officials to examine security in the aftermath of the attack last month by pro-Chechnya Muslim terrorists on a school in Russia, in which more than 300 people were killed and some 700 wounded.
In the Russian attack, heavily armed Islamists took over and wired with explosives the school building in Beslan, North Ossetia. It is believed that an accidental explosion set off a battle between Russian security personnel and the terrorists, who set off several explosions and shot schoolchildren and teachers as they tried to escape.
U.S. officials believe the Beslan terrorists included some al Qaeda-linked foreign terrorists.
The Education Department letter said that school officials should examine "protective measure guidance" for helping to prevent and respond to a similar terrorist attack, were it to occur in the United States.
The notice said the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security are "currently unaware of any specific, credible information indicating a terrorist threat to public and private schools, universities or colleges in the United States."
The letter stated that indicators of terrorist surveillance before an attack include interest in site plans for schools, bus routes and attendance lists from persons who don't normally request such information.
Authorities also were advised to remain alert for "static surveillance" by people who may be disguised as panhandlers, shoeshiners, newspaper or flower vendors, or street sweepers who seem out of place in a particular area.
Other indicators of terrorist surveillance can include spying on school security drills, people staring at employees or vehicles in parking areas, and surveillance by pedestrians.
Fears of an attack on American schools also were raised by the recent discovery in Iraq of a computer disk containing data showing the layout of six schools in the United States, including districts in California, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, New Jersey and Oregon.
Officials believed the disk may have been part of a terrorist plot. However, FBI officials said on Friday that there did not appear to be a terrorist threat connected to the computer disk.
The Iraqi who had the disk, a member of Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath Party, apparently was collecting information from the Internet sites of American schools that would be useful for emergency planning for Iraqi schools, U.S. officials said.
U.S. security officials have been concerned in recent months that al Qaeda or other terrorists are planning to enter the United States from Mexico.
Intelligence officials said a suspected al Qaeda leader who has been in the United States was spotted recently in Mexico. Officials believe Adnan Shukrijumah, whom the FBI wants for questioning, met with alien smugglers in Mexico and Honduras and was seeking ways to bring al Qaeda members into the United States. Shukrijumah was seen in August in the Sonora province of northern Mexico, officials said.
Since October 2003, authorities have arrested five Arabs attempting to cross illegally into the United States from Mexico.
In July, officials dismissed as untrue an Internet report that said a group of Middle Eastern men were recently caught trying to cross the border from Mexico.
The report apparently was based on a group of Oaxacan tribesmen who were stopped as they tried to cross the border in Arizona. The tribesmen spoke an Indian language native to southern Mexico that may have been mistaken for Arabic, officials said at the time.

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At first i thought you were talking about Czechs, or Tsjechs, however that's written. But it appears they are "Tsjetsjenen" as we say. Anyway ..

I can't imagine the situation fully, since i don't know how exactly people are crossing (mountains, rivers, .. ) but you're definitely right about America's 'Achilles heel' there. Let's just hope nothing happens.

From a documentary i've seen about it, i remember that it would take a huge amount of effort and money to stop illegals from crossing the american-mexican border. I think they used the words 'virtually impossible'.
And i think Bush just thinks 'better to stay of this problem and hope not to many people start nagging about it than doing a poor job (because he won't have the money for it i guess) and drawing attention to the problem'. Which isn't something i blame Bush for, but is a general attitude(problem) of many politicians.

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I don't think Chechen terrorist will strike against the US. They simply don't have a good enough reason. They want their own (muslim) state in Chechnya, but the only ones who are really working against that are the Russians, plus Russians are just so much easier to target.

J, I understand your problem with the mix up. The problem is that the Chech Republic has no short English name for itself, although everybody expects it to have one, so when people read Chechnya and don't think they think it's the Chech Rep. they're talking about.

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Maybe I will sneak into the US through Mexico, how's that for a security risk? ;) Then I'll go on and become a Great Leader of the Unheard in the US (i.e., everyone who doesn't vote because all candidates suck), win the elections as third party, become president and eliminate all evidence of my non-citizenship. I suppose getting the lingo right shouldn't take more than a few years, just about the time I'd need to develop my Grand Scheme. I'll marry Onassis' granddaughter to finance my campaign. And to buy an island.

Anyhoo, it's spelled Czech Republic.

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You've been playing a little too much Evil Genius lately.:P

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The intelligence report was supplied to the U.S. government in late August or early September and was based on information from an intelligence source that has been proved reliable in other instances, one official said.


Hmmm, doesnt that sound credible!

P.s. Fuck the chechens, fuck all muslim extremists.

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I'd rather say 'fuck extremists' and not just the muslim ones.

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agreed, fuck extremists.

And Chechens in the US? WTF is the point of that? That'd be like Khmer Rouge (however you spell it) invading England or something.

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On the subject of wierd names, the founder of Wing Chun (the martial art that I do) was a budhist nun by the name of "Ng Mui"

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A nun? lol. :) It's spelled correctly Satis...and yes, fuck extremists and yes, I played too much Evil Genius lately. ;)

At uni now, missed class. Thought it was at 9.30pm so I chilled out and took the bus really late, then when I arrived it began to dawn on me that all my morning classes start at 9pm. Blah. 40 more minutes to go until they have a break. And it's not THAT interesting that i'd barge in there either. :roll: There's a few hotties in here, so no need for relocation. *waves at hottie opposed to him*

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Lol you're so hopeless...

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heheh. Are all the people in Belgium like Ox? If so, I can see why they never became a world power. :)

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Well they do breed... so maybe Belgian women are just easy to get?

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We're the beer country, of course we have a lot of women that are easy to get, under the right circumstances of course! Although you have to ask yourself if you want a girl that's so easy. Reminds me of my year at uni when i won our club's "Pornostiek". :D

Skipping classes heh ox, tss, shame on you ;)

I had a professor once which i had never seen because i didn't go to any of the lectures. I did the exam, got a 12 (in september) and never seen him anymore. That's the way things should go. Actually i should be ashamed how many classes i skipped. Sometimes i didn't even make it to school during a whole week :shock:

Not like a mate who had oral exam, he was alone (also september) and he didn't have a clue how the prof looked like. He ran into the guy in the hall were they were supposed to meet but he was late. However he was uncertain if that was the man he was looking for. In the end he asked and he turned out to be lucky. Well as lucky as you can get in that situation.

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Sounds awfully familiar...and I meant AM in my previous post of course, not PM. :roll: It almost seems like it was yesterday that I wrote that, so far away. I'm not used to days starting at 8am and ending about now. :/


You're all such bitches, but I lub you all really (<-tiredness and aftermath of tons of sandwiches/milk make for squishy feelings) J, are you in for the big lottery draw on monday? I desperately wanna score that 7.000.000€, so I decided to make twelve picks. (a lot for a bum like me :P ) I'm already imagining what i'll buy if i win...new appartment, car, pc, friends. :) I'll buy the clankiller domain name too...I'm sure I'll be able to sue Satis over it when I change my name to Clan K. Iller. And then I'll dominate you all!! (sorry, couldn't resist)

But seriously, 7 million, w00t. Now I only gotta win it...according to this form I got a 1 in 5.300.000 something chance. Divided by 12. Easy money! ;)

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