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No - Texans get spammed actually :)

And posts mysteriously change.... anyway - I think I know the story now...

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I occasionally blame BJ when one of these (EDIT tyranus: actually i'm to blame for all of them going missing. stop it. :evil: ) goes missing in my post

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to get back on topic...

I have now read 'Do androids dream of electric sheep'. I think I like Philip K Dick alot... this is the second book of his I've read in a day.

It's put me in a rather odd frame of mind. Excellent book. I highly recommend it.

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Are you just pulling our legs here?

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Satis wrote:
to get back on topic...

I have now read 'Do androids dream of electric Lacessit's Mom'. I think I like Philip K Dick alot... this is the second book of his I've read in a day.

It's put me in a rather odd frame of mind. Excellent book. I highly recommend it.



Hehe, cool! :) "Do androids.." has a very peculiar atmosphere yeah. Fun to see you're taking a liking to PKD man. You should try "A Scanner Darkly" next if you like...i rank it just a bit above "Do androids.." myself. Btw, Shiny, you read Valis yet? :)


And Myrdinn, the "Lacessit's mom" thing is to be replaced with "sheep"...than it'll make a bit more sense. Just a tad heh.


Been working on Eliot's "The Wasteland" today. I know it's widely known so you guys might have already read it but still, here's my fav passage in the poem.


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The river's tent is broken; the last fingers of leaf
clutch and sink into the wet bank. The wind
crosses the brown land, unheard. The nymphs are departed.
sweet Thames, run softly, till I end my song.
the river bears no empty bottles, sandwich papers,
silk handkerchiefs, cardboard boxes, cigarette ends
or other testimony of summer nights. The nymphs are departed.
and their friends, the loitering heirs of city directors;
departed, have left no addresses.
by the waters of Leman I sat down and wept . . .
sweet Thames, run softly till I end my song,
sweet Thames, run softly, for I speak not loud or long.
but at my back in a cold blast I hear
the rattle of the bones, and chuckle spread from ear to ear.


The entire "Wasteland":

http://www.bartleby.com/201/1.html


I'm not really into poetry tho...war poetry is about the only poetry i can stand.

Favourite ones...

Dulce et Decorum est

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Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned out backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame, all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!--An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime.--
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams before my helpless sight
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin,
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs
Bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,--
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.



Wilfred Owen




Break of Day in the Trenches

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The darkness crumbles away.
It is the same old druid Time as ever,
Only a live thing leaps my hand,
A queer sardonic rat,
As I pull the parapet's poppy
To stick behind my ear.
Droll rat, they would shoot you if they knew
Your cosmopolitan sympathies.
Now you have touched this English hand
You will do the same to a German
Soon, no doubt, if it be your pleasure
To cross the sleeping green between.
It seems you inwardly grin as you pass
Strong eyes, fine limbs, haughty athletes,
Less chanced than you for life,
Bonds to the whims of murder,
Sprawled in the bowels of the earth,
The torn fields of France.
What do you see in our eyes
At the shrieking iron and flame
Hurled through still heavens ?
What quaver--what heart aghast?
Poppies whose roots are in man's veins
Drop, and are ever dropping;
But mine in my ear is safe--
Just a little white with the dust.


God

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In his malodorous brain what slugs and mire,
Lanthorned in his oblique eyes, guttering burned!
His body lodged a rat where men nursed souls.
The world flashed grape-green eyes of a foiled cat
To him.
On fragments of an old shrunk power,
On shy and maimed, on women wrung awry,
He lay, a bullying hulk, to crush them more.
But when one, fearless, turned and clawed like bronze,
Cringing was easy to blunt these stern paws,
And he would weigh the heavier on those after.

Who rests in God's mean flattery now? Your wealth
Is but his cunning to make death more hard.
Your iron sinews take more pain in breaking.
And he has made the market for your beauty
Too poor to buy, although you die to sell.
Only that he has never heard of sleep;
And when the cats come out the rats are sly.
Here we are safe till he slinks in at dawn.

But he has gnawed a fibre from strange roots,
And in the morning some pale wonder ceases.
Things are not strange and strange things are forgetful.
Ah! if the day were arid, somehow lost
Out of us, but it is as hair of us,
And only in the hush no wind stirs it.
And in the light vague trouble lifts and breathes,
And restlessness still shadows the lost ways.
The fingers shut on voices that pass through,
Where blind farewells are taken easily . . .

Ah! this miasma of a rotting God!




both Isaac Rosenberg



And alt but not least, the most famous one:


In Flanders Fields


Quote:
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


John McCrae



Erh....sorry for this. :/ Hope the layout works out fine tho.

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I'll read it when I have more time to devote to it. I'm not much of a fan of poetry either. Still, some of poetry is really good.

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Actually I just started reading it last night. So far very insane... Been really busy with my psycho new dog..... errg... for which I am having to pay a freaking $5-600 doggie trainer to get her to stop trying to eat my little dog. Might I add anybody else would have already given her back. Kill my bleeding heart.

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*screams* argh get it away, i had more war poetry and literature shoved into my brain in my last year of A-Levels than I care to remember *runs away quickly*

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Shut it you Satanic Brit! :P ;)


Hehe...very insane goes a long way in describing Valis. :) And spending 5-600 bucks on training a new dog...:o you're right, i for one would have given it back lol. I'd spend much money on the wellbeing of a pet i've grown attached to but i doubt i would on a new one.

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Yeah, but sometimes, you find the most remarkable things hidden under some insanity. I believe the dog could be that great thing once I get to understand the insanity. (Yeah, keep in mind I am on some major drugs right now for a couple of injuries, so exactly thinking with the whole deck.)

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Hehe...i know how it is (i think, if it's your foot/leg your takingt them for, if not, i don't :) ), few months ago i had to have one of my wisdom teeth pulled, and in the meantime i was on painkiller since the nerve itself was rotting. :roll:

Anyway, i'm taking these painkillers my mum still had from some operation, Contranol or summit, and i'm at the dentist's and he asks "you got good painkillers?" And i'm like "I guess, i'm taking these contranol things now", and he looks up from his writing and goes really serious like "but that's way too strong for something like this!" and i'm like "erhh..." :roll:


I had felt that i was remarkeably happy after one or two of them pills but since i usually don't take painkillers i didn't think it abnormal. :) However, it didn't come close to "real" dope imho. Blah.



Erh, what i actually wanted to post was that it's funny that you connected the insanity of PKD with dogs and stuff since somewhere in the Valis trilogy there is a keymoment involving a dead dog. Think it's in the divine invasion but might be in valis, forgot. Anyways, enjoy the book and the high! ;)

P.S. buy A Scanner Darkly!

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The only PKD novel we have left at the moment is 'Time out of Joint'. From the synopsis it sounds very promising. Maybe after I read everthing else we purchased we'll go for another half-price books run. :)

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You sent me A Scanner Darkly didn't you ox? IF so yeah go buy it, it was cool!

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I read 'Time out of Joint'... took about 3.5 hours. Pretty good book, but obviously written a long time ago. (the 'future' is 1997).

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Yeah, i think it's one of PKD's earlier works, they're usually a bit "rougher" than his later. Because i have to read a whole lot of stuff for school i haven't been reading anything decent lately. :)

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