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Author: | ElevenBravo [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:50 pm ] | |||||||||
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story ... 26,00.html
This is really doesnt blow anything into ID, more like creationism. Interesting article. |
Author: | pevil [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:21 am ] |
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pretty cool |
Author: | Myrddin L'argenton [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:30 am ] |
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I don't know about ID- it does show evolution in action and that there are links between different types of animals. |
Author: | Satis [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:36 am ] |
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well, the biggest argument of ID is that some things are too complex to have evolved and must have been created. This doesn't directly discredit it, but throws more doubt onto ID. Creationism is discredited or not depending on the flavor....the crazy ones that disavow evolution entirely.. well, they've been discredited for a long time. The more intelligent ones you can never discredit...they'll call evolution another example of the power of the creator or something. Anyway, nice article. |
Author: | Myrddin L'argenton [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:43 am ] |
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Its unbelievable some of the arguments they use- one of them tried the "science is faith argument" |
Author: | ElevenBravo [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:06 am ] |
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I dont think ID has a set standard. To me ID means and could mean that a high intelligence created the evolution effect. Evolution doesnt discount ID and Id doesnt discount evolution, they can both be realised and true. |
Author: | derf [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:42 am ] |
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Yet there is evidence for evolution, but none for ID. |
Author: | ElevenBravo [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:29 pm ] |
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What evidence do we have that life originated on earth? |
Author: | Satis [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:32 pm ] |
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there's no way to prove we originated here. Even if we found the very first single-celled organism ever, there's no way we could prove it wasn't delivered here by a comet or something... though the other way around may be possble, proving like originated from extraterrestrial means. Which would be neat. And seems entirely possible, the more people look at it. |
Author: | ElevenBravo [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:42 pm ] |
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Thats my point about ID, with no proof for or against it it cant be discredited nor proved. It only remains "possible". |
Author: | derf [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:02 pm ] |
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It would be best to support a "probable" theory, rather than a "possible" one. |
Author: | Satis [ Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:33 pm ] |
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well, I don't think anything should be taught in science class unless there's some form of evidence to support it. Anything that's possible but has no evidence (and no change of evidence) belongs in philosophy. Or theology, which is really just a different flavor of philosophy. |
Author: | Myrddin L'argenton [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:51 am ] |
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Plus it seems a sneaky attempt by creationists to get creationism in through the back door. |
Author: | Satis [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:56 am ] |
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yea, that too. I had a friend in college (years and years ago) who was taught creationism in high school. And that's it. They didn't teach evolution at all... it was a new concept to her in college. Now that's screwed up. Granted, it was a little town in the middle of nowhere, but that's no excuse. |
Author: | Myrddin L'argenton [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:06 am ] |
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I couldn't understand how the monkey trials could have happened in History- after now spending 6 months living with a creationist I see it all to clearly. |
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