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A CIA Cover Blown, a White House Exposed
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King  Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town 
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  A CIA Cover Blown, a White House Exposedhttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... full.story
This pretty much says we went to war because the Administration wanted to. Whats also interesting is Rumsfield created his own intelligence agency within the Department of Defense because the administration didnt like the answers it was getting from the CIA. The CIA claimed their wasnt enough evidence to go to war. Rumsfield agency tried to find what ever support they could to go to war with Iraq. Sounds alot like the SS in Nazi Germany.... Its a very interesting read. _________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship. 
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Minor Diety  Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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I cant stand the style of language its written in. Sorry, ill have to skip it.
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:56 am |
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King Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:18 pm Posts: 1976 Location: Sexy Town
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_________________ Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.
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Minor Diety  Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:23 am Posts: 3956 Location: Amsterdam
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Why does the US have so many intelligence agencies? Espescially since they don't like cooperating with each other. That system sounds like a subsidy sink.
Rumsfeld is an ass, I don't know how ho could have gottem himself back in place the second term. I hold him responsible for fucking up the Iraq war. _________________ Melchett: As private parts to the gods are we: they play with us for their sport! |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:04 am |
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Minor Diety  Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:31 pm Posts: 3334 Location: Belgium
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Well from the general sound of it you (america) has just discovered what a lot of europeans know for a loooong time already.
_________________ Beter een pens van het zuipen dan een bult van het werken! ~King of Thieves~ |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:22 pm |
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Felix Rex  Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16661 Location: On a slope
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US intelligence agencies
FBI: Federal Bureau of Investigation: internal to the US, investigates normal-type crimes. CIA: Central Intelligence Agency: external from the US, does spying and whatnot outside of the US. Not supposed to operate within US borders. NSA: National Security Agency: more secretive, this has to do with US secrets, intelligence gathering, etc. This one's basically concerned with counterespionage and signals intelligence and shit (from my understanding). MI: Military Intelligence: A military intelligence branch. Investigates military matters. From my understanding, they spend more time spying on people in the US military than they do other countries. Main focus is military matters. did I miss any? Or any corrections? _________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. |
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Minor Diety  Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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the ATF!!
And the NSA is so secretive it's spooky. Most ppl don't even know it, I reckon. I know it from reading XIII comics.  _________________ "I find a Burger Tank in this place? I'm-a be a one-man cheeseburger apocalypse." - Coach |
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Felix Rex Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16661 Location: On a slope
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ATF? heh....that's the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. The drink, smoke, and shoot guns.
Actually, they're supposed to police illegal imports of the above, I believe. And make sure everyone has the right forms and whatnot filled out. The one time they did anything interesting (raided branch davidians in Waco) they totally screwed the pooch to national attention. I don't think they really get to do much of anything any more. Then there's the office of homeland security. If you don't no what their charter is, you've been living in a box or something. :p As for the NSA...yea...supposedly they're the ones behind Carnivore and Echelon. Scary folks. _________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. |
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| Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:01 pm |
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Minor Diety Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Hehe, still, if I'm to join a service it'd be the ATF. Just cos it sounds cool.
As far as Waco goes, can't say I'm totally in the loop about it. But I can imagine it's hard raiding a building filled with armed to the teeth idiots using kids as human shield. Nuts like Koresh deserve to die of course, or at least put in ward for the criminally insane.
And I love the NSA, and the USA at large. God bless the flag and all. *they might be listening *_________________ "I find a Burger Tank in this place? I'm-a be a one-man cheeseburger apocalypse." - Coach |
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Felix Rex Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16661 Location: On a slope
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...there's so much misinformation about the Branch Davidian thing.
Allegations of child abuse. Allegations of drug production. none of which have a shred of proof. In fact, since most people died, and the few that didn't could easily have been strong armed into saying whatever the government wanted them to ("confess that koresh touched your asshole or we charge you with 11 counts of shooting a police officer"), I seriously doubt anyting about that whole affair. All I know is, if I woke up at 5am and saw a bunch of armed people crawling around on my roof, I'd shoot their asses too. _________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. |
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Minor Diety Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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Like I said, I'm not very informed on the matter so I reserve the right of making ignorant remarks.
besides, I'm not a big fan of communes living in the country on a stack of weapons. Maybe it's a cultural thing, but meh.
What's funny tho is that I've seen documentaries on other such 'communes' living out in the middle of nowhere armed to the teeth which seemed like a MUCH bigger threat than these fellas. Talking a whole die-hard white power fascist camp with total nazi adoration and stuff. It's kinda funny that they don't get a 'visit' from the authorities, and a wannabe guru does. _________________ "I find a Burger Tank in this place? I'm-a be a one-man cheeseburger apocalypse." - Coach |
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