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Author:  Satis [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:26 pm ]
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hey, check it out....

AIDS vaccine?

another cancer drug?

the cancer thing...well, cool and all, but not all that unbelievable. We have 'breakthroughs' in cancer constantly. The AIDS thing, though, would be the first of its kind that I'm aware of. Imagine an AIDS vaccine. In 20 years people will be thinking of AIDS like we do of polio.

Author:  ElevenBravo [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:53 pm ]
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Cancer cure, never
Aids cure, never

Why? money. Think of all the people, companies, and CEO's who make billions on cancer/aids drugs and technologies. Finding a cure of those disease would put out of some serious money. There are theories out there that there are already cures for aid and cancer but they are being supressed.

Author:  Satis [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:00 pm ]
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in that case, I suggest we get together, overthrow the world, and make those drugs available for everyone.

then we can make new, horrible diseases, blame them on the Chinese, and rule the world with an iron thumb.

Author:  Pig [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:07 pm ]
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There are also theories that the earth is flat. Plus, by that logic we would never accomplish anything.

Author:  Satis [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:12 pm ]
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well, we'd put me in a position of power. That's an accomplishment.

Author:  Rinox [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:35 pm ]
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Heh...I'd go with 11b's conspiracy theorism over having Satis for president. :) It'd be a tough question really, weighing off neat new laws against a maniac in total power. :wink:

Author:  ElevenBravo [ Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:11 pm ]
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[url=http://www.davidicke.net/medicalarchives/aids/aidscure.html]AIDS TREATMENT
FOR THE WORLD HAS BEEN
SUPPRESSED FOR OVER TWO YEARS
by
THE UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH
THE FEDERAL DRUG ADMINISTRATION
AND THE WHITE HOUSE![/url]



Two Possibly Suppressed AIDS Cures

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/cooper/aids.htm

A Cure for AIDS/HIV, mysteriously withheld - Alternatives AVAILABLE

AIDS is a cruel deception that is maintained because so many people are making money from it. Take away this money and the entire system of mythology will collapse

To name a few. There was 1 link that had a ton of information on this subject but a while back my favorites disappeared. Im trying to find that link.

Author:  Arathorn [ Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:24 am ]
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Big corporations (espescialy big pharming) are very afraid of public opinion.
They can't afford things like this coming out, so they won't hold it back. There is also a lot (though off course much less) research done by universities. I don't see why universities or the government want to hold cures for AIDS and cancer from the public. Not universities because they have nothing to win from that, not for the government because it's very bad for the economy (also for the African economy, and poor people are a good breeding ground for terrorists, while Islam is a growing religion in Afrika).
Pharming can earn more money with old-people deseases without cancer, people without cancer tend to live longer.

Author:  derf [ Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:15 am ]
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ElevenBravo The Great wrote:
Cancer cure, never
Aids cure, never


I dont entirely agree. How do pharmaceuticals make money by researching? How much more money will they make though actually selling a cure?

Author:  Myrddin L'argenton [ Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:49 pm ]
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Didn't the Chinese supress a malaria drug. Not all treatment is being supressed tho. My Dad is in part of a study to research the effects of drugs for high blood pressure with arthirites.

Author:  Rinox [ Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:46 pm ]
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There is, generally speaking, no point in holding back any kind of medicine. Simple because disease isn't a static entity but a continually developing one...so diseases will come and go (and mutate); pharmacy business will always have a use and clients. And when a business has clients, it's happy.

11B scenario

research: costs money
keeping it a secret if there's a cure: cost money

overall: corporation loses money.

other scenario

selling a cure: makes a lot of money

overall: corporation makes money.

Author:  derf [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:07 am ]
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How do these firms aquire funds?

Author:  Arathorn [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:53 am ]
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Sales of medicines. But medicines have patents, so they have to develop new medicines before their patents run out, or they'll get cheap competition form countries like India.

Author:  ElevenBravo [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:24 pm ]
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Rinox wrote:
There is, generally speaking, no point in holding back any kind of medicine. Simple because disease isn't a static entity but a continually developing one...so diseases will come and go (and mutate); pharmacy business will always have a use and clients. And when a business has clients, it's happy.

11B scenario

research: costs money
keeping it a secret if there's a cure: cost money

overall: corporation loses money.

other scenario

selling a cure: makes a lot of money

overall: corporation makes money.


Nope your wrong

My scenario

research: a small portion of money
keeping a cure a secret or repressing other companys from going public with a cure: small donation to congressmen
Money made from producing medicine that only helps a little so people constantly need more medication: BILLIONS

other
research: a small portion of money
selling a cure: Lots of money at first, then once everyone is cured nothing

Lets face it, how many companies do you know that make billions of dollars selling smallpox cure? Zero

Author:  pevil [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:38 am ]
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Lets face it, how many illnesses stay permanently cured :roll:

how fast do viruses/bacteria evolve? As soon as you cure a disease, 20 variants of it exist. Besides, i love how we're so worried that the world is overpopulated and yet trying to keep everyone alive for longer and longer :roll:

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