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Mole
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:15 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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derf
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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RB
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Mole
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:09 pm Posts: 4004 Location: Walsall, West Mids, UK
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_________________ Games to complete: GTA IV [100%] (For Multiplayer next!) Fallout 3 [50%] Rock Band [35%] http://www.cafepress.com/SmeepProducts
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Rinox
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_________________ "I find a Burger Tank in this place? I'm-a be a one-man cheeseburger apocalypse."
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:32 am |
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Shiny
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Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:30 pm Posts: 810
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Well the thing is all the admin people can look up the times and IP address satis and I post and see two entities - plus satis mispelling words - the horror.... and banks suck - but I think I am better at finding banks than satis is - he is lazy lmao......
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:42 pm |
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Peltz
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Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2003 1:14 pm Posts: 6362 Location: Estonia
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Well in some countries the income tax is based on earnings. The more you earn the more you pay. But the thing is, those who earn more, they do not use public goods more, more likely they use less. So in the end they pay more to use less. Kinda makes you wanna shoot those politicians doesnt it. Hopefully that kind of shit stays away from Estonia or I swear ill move to Finland.
_________________ When someone asks how rich you are, quote Rinox " I don't even have a rusty nail to scratch my butt with...!"
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Myrddin L'argenton
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Mole
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Satis
Felix Rex
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Peltz
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Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2003 1:14 pm Posts: 6362 Location: Estonia
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_________________ When someone asks how rich you are, quote Rinox " I don't even have a rusty nail to scratch my butt with...!"
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:42 am |
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Satis
Felix Rex
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:01 pm Posts: 16662 Location: On a slope
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_________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:26 am |
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derf
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Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:17 pm Posts: 7721 Location: Centre of the sun
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"It's politics man, politics."
_________________ "Well a very, very hevate, ah, heavy duh burtation tonight. We had a very derrist derrison, bite, let's go ahead and terrist teysond those fullabit who have the pit." - Serene Branson
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:29 am |
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Rinox
Minor Diety
Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:23 am Posts: 14892 Location: behind a good glass of Duvel
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There's a need for taxes and there's a need for the rich to give to the poor. If they wouldn't, you'd create a society with a small, very rich top layer and a large, poor bottom layer and little or no middle class. And as you might know, the middle classes are what make society work. That's why all civilized countries have a large middle class population and why banana republics are all about a happy few rich. Banana republics are the result of the rich not having to give anything to the poor, believe it or not.
Now, the system isn't perfect. The idea, of course, is to give everyone a good basic quality of life and a chance to go beyond what they started with. Or to act as a safety net for people who are fired until the find a new job, so that they can still feed their families and pay their bills while on the dole. The system is meant to give everyone their 'turn' to be rich, but is inherently flawed because of the existence of generational richess and poverty. Ie, groups who are either so rich or so poor that they don't stand much of a chance of becoming poorer/richer so they don't make the system 'work'. They just perpetuate their own existence.
There being flaws in the system doesn't mean the system is crap. Lesser of evils and all. And hell yeah that the rich should pay more than the poor! If you make 30.000 bucks a month and have to pay 5% more taxes than someone who makes 2000 a month, you will still (and by a huge margin) be the person who feels it the least in his wallet. of course this all needs to stay within certain margins, or you dissuade people to work hard and earn more money. But a certain extra is feasable.
Oh and ppl who make use of public services typically don't want to. Well, the housing perhaps. But the schools? The health services? Shit, you'd have to be a downright jackass to LIKE to use those. Let's not forget either that many rich ppl are rich from exploiting the poor, directly or indirectly. That reminds me of a documentary of short-term loans in the US: because of the credit system, poor people can't get regular loans from banks so they turn to places who will loan them (small amounts) of cash over a short period of time at massive interest rates. Most of them need the money to bridge up to next month and can't go anywhere else so...and of course the cycle only gets worse as they are inevitably making losses over the entire matter. The fact that most poor people have little or no education or a decent grasp of financial matters only worsens the problem.
Meh. So anyway, there's a reason why it all exists. It's not just to make the politicians rich(er).
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