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Author: | Arathorn [ Fri May 07, 2004 4:39 am ] |
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I would choose for president A, except for the dodging the draft, that is more something for George, not really something I want in a president. ![]() |
Author: | ElevenBravo [ Fri May 07, 2004 5:31 am ] |
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Call me crazy but lieing under oath and cheating on your wife is not something that is honorable. Its not something you want to do or should be assosciated with. Lieing is wrong But im sure you heathens will spin it another way Cheat on your wife is wrong but Im sure you heathens will squire an excuse out of this one too. Thats what seperates me from you. I have a clear cut line of what I believe is right and wrong. Yall, have a fuzzy line between right and wrong and depending on how you feel about and issue deteremines how fuzz that line can be. "Well, he lied under oath, but they should have asked him that question any" That is complete HORSE SHIT. It doesnt matter what question they ask you, you LIED under OATH. How can you have any credibitly after LIEING and CHEATING! You can, only if your a liar and cheater yourself. Now, 1 of you ask me how do I know the CIA was involed. Do not blame US troops. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/polit ... &position= |
Author: | Arathorn [ Fri May 07, 2004 5:36 am ] |
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Oohh I'm gonna burn in hell!!! Is there still hope? Where can I convert myself to Christianity? Or should I become a muslim? It's so difficult these days, fanatics from all world religions are tearing me apart. ![]() |
Author: | ElevenBravo [ Fri May 07, 2004 5:50 am ] | |||||||||
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Since when is lieing and cheating associated with christianity? Lieing and cheat is a basic moral issue not one of religion. Man your a wacko! Why are you pinning something so simple as a religious issue? Heres something I found insteresting. Something in referance to the pictures of the Iraq prisoners.
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Author: | Arathorn [ Fri May 07, 2004 6:00 am ] |
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Hm.. what does this have to do with it? |
Author: | J [ Fri May 07, 2004 6:31 am ] | |||||||||
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True. Especially if you have a function in which you're supposed to be an example to a city or even a whole nation. Cheating and lying is never okay, but if you're the president of the USA you defenitely should know better. Clinton went totally out of line on this. Let that be clear. Indeed it has nothing to do with religion, i draw my line very clear on this. I also draw the line on homosexuality and abortion somewhere else than you do, i think that has to do with religion, maybe only for a part but it has to do with it. In an age of AIDS and other stuff, i just don't believe in any institution that forbids the use of condoms. In africa this just means murder. About this CIA stuff: I think there's much we don't know or hear from and those things often can't stand the daylight. I'm not talking vampires here, but illegal operations, torturing and/or killing prisoners, .. . Anyone in Guantanamo Bay that already knows what will become of him? Mindgames, maybe, sick games, defenitely. |
Author: | ElevenBravo [ Fri May 07, 2004 8:19 am ] | |||||||||
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Its suggested by the caller than the military personel taking the pictures are homosexual's that got in the military by the "Dont ask, Dont tell" policy Clinton made. Its does bring up a point. I mean if these men where heterosexual they would probably be beating the crap out of them and farting in their faces, not stripping them nude and putting them in a pile and taking pictures of them. Just a thought. |
Author: | Satis [ Fri May 07, 2004 11:24 am ] |
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I don't think sexual orientation has anything to do with it. Hell, from what I understand, these guys were reservists anyway. That's probably the problem. heh. Err, anyway, I still haven't even had a chance to see these pictures (except little tiny versions). Someone wanna drop a link or ten? |
Author: | Arathorn [ Fri May 07, 2004 11:35 am ] |
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I agree with Satis, it has nothing to do with being gay. Espescially since the most prominent soldier on those pictures is a woman (at least, it looks like it). ![]() Haven't seen big images yet either. |
Author: | J [ Fri May 07, 2004 11:38 am ] |
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Don't wanna see big images, only seen some on the news. And yeah there's one female soldier involved that's for sure. |
Author: | ElevenBravo [ Fri May 07, 2004 7:29 pm ] | |||||||||
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Welcome to the Iraq Prisoner Abuse Club! Beer is on the left, restrooms down the hall. The buffet line is open! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... tions_dc_6
See, this is what a heterosexual would do to a prisoner. Im not saying its my theroy, Im just saying its an interesting point. And now given what these British soldiers did seems more hetrosexual than takeing nude pictures of arbaian men. |
Author: | derf [ Sat May 08, 2004 3:23 am ] |
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11b: There is no indication in that text that the CIA had asked the soldiers to soften them up. To presume this, is based on opinion not on fact. 11b: What separates me from you is that you are a stereotypical right wing citizen with right wing ideology, whereas I am much more liberal. 11b: Your point on homos and the photos is rubbish. 11b: Oh and those British army pictures are FAKE. Ill say it again. FAKE. No point binging it up anymore. |
Author: | ElevenBravo [ Sun May 09, 2004 10:29 am ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Says who?
And your not a stereotypical liberal? ha |
Author: | J [ Sun May 09, 2004 12:01 pm ] |
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The british ones are fake because the uniforms don't match those that the british actually wear in Iraq. That's what i've been told anyway. Btw, i heard these american soldiers will end up in court (or military court dunno). But a lot of sources point to the CIA telling them to make the prisoners life a hell. I think it's a bit strange they get punished and the people who gave the orders don't. Suppose they had refused to obey commands, wouldn't that have resulted in military court as well? Dunno but it sounds a bit hypocrite to me. |
Author: | Satis [ Sun May 09, 2004 2:59 pm ] |
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Were the orders to make them naked any pile them on top of each other (or whatever), or just to make it hell. Because you can make a prisoner's life hell without violating the Geneva convention. ![]() |
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